Unofficial CakePHP forums

Something missed by a lot of people is now live: a forum for CakePHP. It is run by a CakePHP user named “kain”. At the moment it is still empty and needs to be filled with activity ;-)

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8 Comments

  1. Pacifists
    Posted July 19, 2006 at 7:12 am | Permalink

    Maybe I’m not understanding something :) but isn’t google group a forum ?:)

  2. Posted July 19, 2006 at 9:24 am | Permalink

    Yes, google group is somehow a forum, But it lacks one feature people associate with a forum: there are no categories

  3. Pacifists
    Posted July 19, 2006 at 11:15 am | Permalink

    I don’t see how it’s a bad thing, there are no forums that can match google search and so google groups have no need for categories:)

    I think it’s just about people not thinking out of the box. Like if there are no categories .. it’s ain’t a forum and we all know it’s so not true :)

    Just my two cents

  4. Posted July 19, 2006 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know if a forum will solve any problems… If it’s not actively moderated it could go the same way as the wiki. However I think at the very least, it’s good that someone took the initiative to do something for the community.

    I do know that the same questions pop up on the google group all the time… There’s a couple of obvious reasons for this:

    1) lack of official documentation for certain things (continually improving)
    2) Searching, especially on the google group but even with the cakephp.org/search site, often returns a mountain of irrelavent or inacurate links before one that is actually useful.

    The great thing about the wiki was that it was open for users to contribute. The problem is that not all contributions are useful (and some of mine may count among them) and can quickly become outdated. having another source of info, if it is only semi useful will not be a help overall – but that’s not to say that is definitely what’s going to happen with the unofficial forum.

    The approach I am about to use is to restructure my site so that I can add/demonstrate code via plugins – in that way, if somebody downloads the code that they just tried and it worked (or didn’t!), it should at least eliminate the thought that the code is written incorrectly (or prove that it is!)- because you’ll be downloading code that is running on my site.

    I for one am going to keep an eye on the new forum :)

  5. Posted July 21, 2006 at 6:05 am | Permalink

    Ah! good to see that it still survives after that awful “frown down upon” from the lead dev on IRC.

    It is not about jumping to forgone conclusions that it is no good – if it is that it will die a natural death if people find it useful it will thrive – let the users decide and yes kain needs to be applauded for taking efforts for the community.

    @cakebaker – thanks for mentioning the forum :)

  6. Posted July 21, 2006 at 10:43 am | Permalink

    @Pacifists: I think it is not that important whether google groups is a forum or not, more important is whether it fits the needs of the users. And there are people out there who do not like google groups for whatever reasons.

    @AD7six: A good idea to provide example code as plug-ins.

    @tariquesani: Yes, the users will decide if the forum will survive. I mentioned the forum as I want to support community initiatives.

  7. Posted July 24, 2006 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    I don’t like a forum that is seperate. I started research a time ago and haven’t had the chance to get back to it. Basically, a forum that would post to Google Group automatically and also automatically check an email account for Google Group activity. The difficult part comes when you want to keep things in categories. So, that it can be categorized on the Forum, but still posted to the Google Group. That is the ultimate goal. The forum should be an extension of the Google Group and not something seperate.

    But one thing is that I can’t check GMAIL at work. So, I can’t do the group that way and must do thru groups.google.com. As for the searching, it isn’t anything special that a fulltext indexing on database couldn’t accomplish.

  8. Posted July 25, 2006 at 5:20 pm | Permalink

    Hi all,
    Perhaps we could see Google Groups like Gmail “Search, don’t sort” ? And forum or wiki could archive things “officialy”. However, I think we can trust Google for their innovation and use Groups the right way instead of a forum. In fact, I dont use Groups yet ^^ just a reflexion on the fly…


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